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(@smokindog)
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12/10/2005 3:11 am  

Its been a bit slow lately, so I thought a new jam was in order. This one is in E, kind of a slow Zeppelin type jam.

1, start-110-twistedfingers
2, 110=210-smokindog
3, 210-310-
4, 310-finish-nroberts

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/songInfo.cfm?bandID=284421&songID=2960519

If any body has a problem with sound click please let me know and i will be happy to send them the mp3 file per e-mail--the dog

My Youtube Pagehttp://www.youtube.com/user/smokindoghttp://www.soundclick.com/smokindogandthebluezershttp://www.soundclick.com/guitarforumjams


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(@twistedfingers)
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12/10/2005 3:29 am  

Okay I'm gonna go out on a limb here. Hope I can record this through my headset mic with some volume. I'll take the start to 1:10 slot.

PRepare for the torture. :P

Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming -- "WOW--What a Ride!"


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(@smokindog)
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12/10/2005 3:52 am  

This is a tutorial written by nroberts

How to participate in a jam

I have twice been asked how these things work so I decided to write something up. I have only been in a couple and mixed one, but I get the gist down...maybe others will correct my mistakes.

First thing an overview of how the "forum" jam thing works. Someone decides to host a jam (from now on called "the host") and lays out a set of segments. The host also selects the backing track and provides the rest of the participant access to the track; usually before the decide to be participant so they can listen and see if they want to join. People choose from those segments and it is usually just a first come first serve but of course the host decides that. Once this is done, participants send their entries to the host, usually via email but whatever method the host has set up for transfer. The host then mixes all the entries together, with the backing track, and posts it to "Completed Jams" for everyone to hear.

Of course, the host might set up the whole thing to work differently, but generally this is how they go.

Now the question is, "Yeah, but how do I do all that?" Well, that is the hard part isn't it... The following describes use of Audacity to participate in one of these things. I don't use audacity myself, but it is available to almost everyone so is a good choice to base this tutorial on. I will also describe what works for me as a host, other hosts may differ in submission guidelines.

What I want, as host, is a two file set from participants. The first file contains a 128bit mp3 with a 44.1kHz sample rate. This is just basically a CD quality audio file with all the http://www.soundclick.com/bands/songInfo.cfm?bandID=284421&songID=2960519stuff I can't hear anyway taken out of it (debatable of course). This file contains only your playing, meaning I can only hear you in it, except for the first couple of seconds which will contain part of the backing track so that I can line up the parts; this section usually has drum clicks in it. The beginning section might need to provide themselves and a later section of the track for alignment if they start playing right away; you must leave your part clean so I can take the clicks out of your track without damaging your submission.

The second file is a low quality mp3 of your section with the backing included; this provides an extra layer of certainty so I can be sure the tracks lined up how the participant hears them. A good setup for this file is a 64bit mp3 at 44.1kHz.

The actual steps:

First open audacity and import the backing track. You do this through the project menu and select "Import audio..."; then just select the mp3 file. This will bring up a stereo track in the project space. Then just hit record and start playing when your time comes in. You should see something like this:

http://www.guitars101.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=14728

After you are done you might see something like this (only yours will probably be more constant from the beginning unless you do some cutting):

http://www.guitars101.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=14726

At this point you want to provide your two files. First make the low quality sample by selecting your section and exporting as wav or mp3. Select all tracks by holding down shift as you select. Choose "Export selection to mp3" (or wav).

http://www.guitars101.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=14729

Before exporting you will want to adjust your mp3 settings if you are exporting to mp3 (you need lame for that otherwise save to wav and convert after).

http://www.guitars101.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=14725

Then select the very beginning of the backing track and choose trim out of the edit menu (or select all but the beginning and choose cut). This will take out the rest of the track.

http://www.guitars101.com/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=14727

Export to wav or mp3 again, but this time choose "Export to mp3" (or wav).

Then send both files to the host and wait for them to finish the mix and post it.

I hope this tutorial helps somewhat...
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This is a tutorial done by nroberts. This is a guide to posting mp3 files for collaborations. I hope it is helpfull.--the dog

My Youtube Pagehttp://www.youtube.com/user/smokindoghttp://www.soundclick.com/smokindogandthebluezershttp://www.soundclick.com/guitarforumjams


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(@gunslinger)
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12/10/2005 1:47 pm  

I'm glad that got reposted. I always thought it should have became a sticky in this thread anyway.

Our songs also have the standard pop format: Verse, chorus, verse, chorus, solo, bad solo. All in all, I think we sound like The Knack and the Bay City Rollers being molested by Black Flag and Black Sabbath. Kurt Cobain


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(@slejhamer)
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12/10/2005 2:10 pm  

Sweet backing track, Dog. I'd love to participate but we're having a baby soon (like Friday!) and my time will not be my own for a while. Looking forward to hearing the final mix. 8)

"Everybody got to elevate from the norm."


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(@nroberts)
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12/10/2005 4:50 pm  

I'm glad that got reposted. I always thought it should have became a sticky in this thread anyway.

I wish I could. This site doesn't allow attachments. The pics are a pretty major part of the whole thing.


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(@smokindog)
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(@nroberts)
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12/10/2005 5:10 pm  

Put me in somewhere.


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(@smokindog)
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12/10/2005 7:59 pm  

Put me in somewhere.

cool 8) You can have the last spot if thats ok with you-the dog

1, start-110-twistedfingers
2, 110=210-smokindog
3, 210-310-
4, 310-finish-nroberts

My Youtube Pagehttp://www.youtube.com/user/smokindoghttp://www.soundclick.com/smokindogandthebluezershttp://www.soundclick.com/guitarforumjams


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(@gunslinger)
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13/10/2005 1:43 pm  

This looks like it's shaping up to be a pretty nice jam. I dig the BT (which it what I was going to post yesterday, but got sidetracked by the article), where did you find it?

Our songs also have the standard pop format: Verse, chorus, verse, chorus, solo, bad solo. All in all, I think we sound like The Knack and the Bay City Rollers being molested by Black Flag and Black Sabbath. Kurt Cobain


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(@smokindog)
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13/10/2005 3:41 pm  

This looks like it's shaping up to be a pretty nice jam. I dig the BT (which it what I was going to post yesterday, but got sidetracked by the article), where did you find it?

http://www.jam.1gb.ru/mpjam_blues.html

:D

My Youtube Pagehttp://www.youtube.com/user/smokindoghttp://www.soundclick.com/smokindogandthebluezershttp://www.soundclick.com/guitarforumjams


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(@gunslinger)
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13/10/2005 5:25 pm  

Now that's what I'm talkin' about!

Our songs also have the standard pop format: Verse, chorus, verse, chorus, solo, bad solo. All in all, I think we sound like The Knack and the Bay City Rollers being molested by Black Flag and Black Sabbath. Kurt Cobain


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(@vic-lewis-vl)
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14/10/2005 1:26 am  

You still got a slot open?

It's 3.23 am over here, and hell, I know I'm going to regret this, but who cares?

Bout time I had a go....and anyway, Twisted Fingers'll never let me live it down if I wimp out now (talking to him on MSN right now....)

so put me in, I'll read the tutorials in the AM...in about 4 hours or so....

:D :D :D

(goes off to give Squier Strat advance warning......)

Vic

"Sometimes the beauty of music can help us all find strength to deal with all the curves life can throw us." (D. Hodge.)


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(@smokindog)
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14/10/2005 1:49 am  

1, start-110-twistedfingers -done
2, 110=210-smokindog
3, 210-310- vic
4, 310-finish-nroberts

so its mad dogs and Englishmen :lol: This is a good learning tool , helps teach about recording and editing, and is fun at the same time :D

My Youtube Pagehttp://www.youtube.com/user/smokindoghttp://www.soundclick.com/smokindogandthebluezershttp://www.soundclick.com/guitarforumjams


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